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Hi all
Aside from the price, how does WSAD build on top of Eclipse (and MyEclipse)? What additional features exist? What additional Wizards exist?
How much of a learning curve is there going from Eclipse/MyEclipse to WSAD?
As I understand it, its *huge*, has 100s of plugins, provides a ton of Wizards for a lot of Web/EJB stuff and has some pretty good rad tooling. I’ve only played with it for a few days, so I don’t feel fully qualified to answer this in detail, but the coverage is greater than ME right now. But I do know that we have some Struts devs comming over from WSAD that find the Struts tooling comparable if not better… so we are getting there.
Thanks for the information.
I want to be clear that I am not considering moving over to WSAD from Eclipse. I’ve been asked to learn WSAD, and I wanted to know what I was getting myself into.
As a WSAD user at work, I can vouch for Riyad’s statement. The amount of functionality is staggering and daunting. The WSAD training course I attended did not come close to tackling all of the applications potential.
In addition, although the number of features offered in WSAD out paces those in ME , the $4000 per user license is more than my play money fund can handle. 🙂
(I’ll be a registered member soon!)
I am using the myeclipseide Hibernate plug-in at home and it is incredible. I would love to use the functionality at work, where we use WSAD 5.X. Does myeclipseid provide plug-ins for WSAD, since it runs on top of Eclipse?
Thank you.
(I’ll be a registered member soon!)
pmead,
IIRC that version of WSAD is built ontop of Eclipse 2.x, but the functionality you are using is all part of MyEclipse 3.8.x which is build on Eclipse 3.x, so I do not think you will be able to use the functionality. However if I am wrong and it is build on Eclipse 3.0.x, then you should be ok. Please keep in mind that this is not a supported setup though.I would love to use the functionality at work, where we use WSAD 5.X. Does myeclipseid provide plug-ins for WSAD, since it runs on top of Eclipse?
The real problem with running MyEclipse in WSAD is we disagree on the project model. WSAD has a very rigid specification on how you *must* lay out your projects and ours is much more flexible, but still not as flexible as we’d like. Given that difference, there’s a disagreement in the meta-information on where to find distinct artifacts, like the web.xml file, so using the products together well isn’t possible.
Recognizing this issue in cross tool usage, Genuitec got involved in the Eclipse Web Tools Project and wrote the specification on what the *correct* flexible project structure would be able to support. A team at IBM/Rational is still busy implementing our spec and should be complete in WebTools 1.0. Going forward, we’ll be building MyEclipse 5.0 on WebTools 1.0 and IBM, BEA, Borland, etc will be building their toolsets on the same platform. This will provide us all with the same project model and allow all the tools to work together well, if desired. Additionally, it will make changing from one toolset to another quite simple.
So, that’s a long way to say “not now, but soon”.
